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athena: aloha everyone and thank you so muchfor tuning into another week of trauma recovery university. i'm your host athena moberg and your amazingco-host bobbi parish is here with me as well. i want to say a very special welcome to allof you who show up early and just support one another in your recovery journeys hereat trauma recovery university. this is one of three twitter chats that wehave every single week. this one has a live q&a video component toit so if you are here on youtube, awesome. if you're on our roku tv channel, welcome. if you're here on google, we are happy thatyou're here.

if you are listening on a podcast platformsuch as itunes, stitcher, spreaker, soundcloud or even i heart radio, we want to kindly remindyou that this is a video broadcast. we would love to welcome you over and inviteyou to come and join all of us. bobbi, i have a new number of countries wherei'm going to surprise you right now. so trauma recovery university, we are a globalsupport group that meet up on twitter, youtube and facebook and we are in over 70 countriesand we’re humbled by that. so welcome to all of you. we are currently in the process of transitioningand getting all of our resources translated into other languages for all of you that donot speak english as your native tongue.

so i want to invite anyone listening on apodcast platform to go head on over to nomoreshameproject.com or traumarecoveryuniversity.com and just goahead and watch some videos and if you would like access to our complimentary onepage resourcewhich is downloadable and it's a pdf so it will be accessible and readable on any mobiledevice or any computer anywhere or any tablet, you can get that by clicking on the downloadablestab on one of our websites traumarecoveryuniversity.com or nomoreshameproject.com and that's justfree. we just want to say thank you. it's sort of our weekly blog post if you willand it is a onepage resource that sort of encompasses everything that we will be discussingtonight here on trauma recovery university.

every week we show up here, we do a live qand a with twitter with you, you tweet your questions to us, you tag us @athenamoberg,@bobbilparish and use the hash tag #nomoreshame. we answer your questions and every week wehave a different topic. that is sort of how this all works. this week's topic is one of my favorites ofall time over the couple years that we've been doing this and it is music and expressivetherapies to aid our recovery journey. so music and expressive therapies are differentin that they don't follow the same guidelines as talk therapy. talk therapy is so powerful and there aretons of modalities out there.

there's neurolinguistic programming, cognitivebehavioral therapy, dialectical behavioral therapy. there are so many different talk therapiesout there and different modalities that include speaking, using our voice and it's so, so,so, so healing. there are however ways that we can expressourselves in art or listening to music or plain music dance or even having a pet ora dog that is trying to be a ptsd service dog or even equine therapy which my girlfriendjulie is actively involved in. she lives in washington. so all of these, we're going to be unpackingand talk about tonight and it's all pertaining

to you, the adult survivor of child abusespecifically childhood sexual abuse. bobbi and myself are both survivors of childhoodsexual abuse and we show up here every single week and we share our recovery journey withyou because that's what we've chosen to do and over the course of the last couple ofyears we've invited several hundred even probably a thousand people close to a thousand peopleto join us in healing in safe community whether that's in the youtube comments on the videos,watching the roku tv channel, coming into a private secret facebook support group toheal among other survivors free from predators, zero tolerance policy, no abuse, no minimizationallowed, just you and other people healing. so that's who we are, that's what we're aboutand it is my privilege and my honor to show

up here every single week to support you,the survivor, and just share humor and tools and education and resources and some laughsalong the way because if you can't laugh and oh my goodness gracious we've been throughso much, we need to find a way to laugh. so we show up here every single week and youare the reason we show up. we are honored and privileged to be here onyour recovery journey with you. thank you for being here. i'm going to turn this over to my amazingpartner bobbi parrish who is i'm sure feverishly and amazingly tweeting every single personthat is out there here to support. so i'll take the twitter stream over for youlike bobbi and bobbi will share all kinds

of really fun amazing announcements with youright now. take it away bobbi. bobbi: hi everybody. i'm so glad that you're here. we are just honored that you choose to spendan hour or a little more than an hour of your week with us or if you're sitting home bingewatching these episodes or listening on a podcast, however you're are, we’re honoredthat you're here. i want to issue first and foremost a big triggerwarning because this is a video podcast, live broadcast that discusses childhood abuse andso please practice excellent self care.

take care of yourself. if you get triggered, just step away. it's no big deal. the broadcasts will be here as podcast asvideos up on you tube within a matter of a couple of hours and you'll be able to comeback to them so don't hesitate to just walk away. we don't want you to watch when you're feelingdistressed at all. if you are in crisis right now or you needhelp urgently and you're in the us or canada, we encourage you to reach out to our friendsrainn.

rainn is the rape abused incest national networkand it is available at 1800-656-hope. you can also reach out to them on their website. they have a crisis chat featured and thatis available twenty four hours a day, seven days a week and their website is rainn.org. if you are in the uk, you can reach out tothe samaritans. the samaritans are available at 116-123. they also have support via email and you canemail them at jo@samaritans.org. you can also get support from the samaritansvia text and that number is 0775909090. if you are in australia which is our nextlargest growing community of survivors, your

national hotline number is 13-11-14. and yay, we’re in 70 countries now and aswe get larger groups of people in different countries, we will give you the crisis andhotline numbers for those countries as well. if you want to, feel free to tweet them tous or however it is you want to get them to us so we can share them with survivors fromaround the world. athena: i just wanted to say a very specialshout out to tiffany and mia. tiffany is joining us for the very first timeand i noticing that mia is joining us as well. mia lives with matt and she is a feline buttiffany is human. tiffany is human and i would like to say veryspecial welcome to tiffany jenkins because

it's her very first time my twitter and hervery first time joining us live. so welcome, welcome, welcome. please continue. bobbi: hi tiffany. i saw a picture of matt’s cat mia. she is gorgeous. athena and i have been very hard at work ona special project that we are going to announce sometime here in the next hopefully two weeks. so we want you, i used to teach kindergartenand so i would tell my students to put on

their listening ears. so put on your twitter and facebook listeningears over the next couple of weeks because we have a phenomenal announcement. athena and i, i think we share this with youbefore when we started this. oh gosh i think i counted the other day twentymonths ago. we had grand visions and we had both had suchdifficult recoveries, just gut wrenching hard recovery because there were so few resourcesfor survivors, so little education out there for survivors about what trauma is and howit affects us and so little support. here’s a therapy appointment maybe everytwo weeks and just on your own and get better.

it took us a long time and it was so hardand so we came together in an effort to put together something that would make other people'sjourneys easier and we had grand visions and we just kept telling ourselves as things gothard and the few times that we thought why do we keep doing this, that we are just twogirls with laptops sitting in our living rooms trying to change the world and we finallyreally, really, really get in there and so this announcement that we're going to makeis going to be amazing and it is really a next step in us changing world for survivorseverywhere so that you have education, you have knowledge, you have support at your fingertipstwenty four seven, three sixty five. so stay tuned and be on the watch and as soonas we can make our announcement, we will be

making the announcement on twitter and facebookand if you live within about five hundred miles of either one of us do you may verywell hear a screaming in our living rooms or with our laptops. athena: yes. i have people who will likely hear me overon the island of oahu even though i live on maui. i’m so excited to be on this journey withall of you guys. bobbi and i, like she was just saying, arejust we’re beyond the realm to be here with you and we're not here ever saying, we haveit all figured out.

you guys are broken and i know that soundslike i'm saying it in jest but a lot of places you go online regardless of what it is you'relooking for, the guru and the expert in everything or they have it all figured out and you'rethe one that screwed up and coming into a place like this with us, where we're all ona very, very, very painful recovery journey. we're not talking about like we're not hereto tell you about the next best widget or plugin or book or i don't know. i'm trying to think of stuff that people sellonline or whatever but we're here to just show up and support you and it's an honorand it's a privilege and we're just so, so that we get to do life with you guys and that'swhat we do.

we’re showing up here doing life with youguys. and we're blessed. we're count ourselves blessed and fortunateto be here with you guys. bobbi, could you possibly have imagined whenwe like you were talking about a minute ago when we first started. we had all these visions of grandeur withon our laptops in our living rooms trying to change the world, could you have ever imaginedthat we would reach seventy countries? bobbi: no. athena: i don't think that i dared to dreamthat big.

in fact i have an issue with dream. i always wonder like am i dreaming to big. i help my girlfriend, you guys have heardme tell you this before but i helped my girlfriend victoria start a cinnamon roll business andwe were training for a marathon together. she is my marathon buddy and i helped herstart her cinnamon business and it was just sort of like this like symbiotic relationshipit was cool but she asked me to dream really, really, really big and if i could have anythingwith her business launching and i could like maybe become like business partners or dosomething with her someday or whatever, what would my big dream be and my dream was tohave a gym membership.

bobbi: wow. athena: that was my big dream. i wanted a gym membership because it had beena really long time since i had a gym membership and i didn't make enough money for a long,long time to have my own gym membership and so i wanted a gym membership and that wasmy big, big dream and she was like looking at me, are you kidding, are you joking. she thought i was joking and i wasn't. survivors have a hard time seeing the forestthrough the trees and we can't see the big expansive world out there of what we couldpossibly accomplish, what we were purpose

for, what we were created to be, the goalswe have, the dreams we have, we can't even see past. oh my gosh i hope i don't have another panicattack today. oh my gosh my ptsd is flaring up so bad. my anxiety is off the charts right now andi have to go to the market and i have to buy food and i have to have the bank and i can'tstand going the bank and i have to go the post office and i hate the post office andoh my gosh it's just crazy and there aren't even words to describe all of the things thatare going through our head. it is a perfect segue to tonight's topic whichis sometimes just getting messy with some

art or listening to some music super duperloud or getting a musical instrument and trying it for the first time and like doing the littledemo keys that they have and all the stuff like just somehow expressing yourself in away, immersing yourself in something that doesn't require words, it is therapeutic. it is a life changing and it is often lifesaving. so buckle your seat belts because it is goingto be a really, really, really fun one. if you are not here live and you're not hangingout with us, tweeting and asking questions and you're like good bored girl just shutup and get to the point, then down below here right above the comment section in the bottomof the description section on the replay in

24 hours or so you will see a link that saysif you're here for the replay and you’re not here alive and you don't want to hearus talk, click on the number and it will fast forward you just to our downloadable onepageresource content that we do want to screen share. so you don't have to listen to us talk, justan enhancement for you folks that are not here live. so again, you can get access to that complimentaryonepage downloadable resource over at traumarecoveryuniversity.com. click on downloadables and it'll ask you foryour email address, send you access, boom you’re in and you can have access to thewhole library.

there is like a hundred hours of resourceson videos and there's almost one hundred onepages. so yeah, this is going to be exciting. bobbi, is there anything that we want to talkabout or share? i thought chat was particularly exciting thismorning and i wanted to even though we invite people at the end of the broadcast to comeand join us on our weekly twitter chat, i think i would love to hear you talk aboutthe magic that was this morning when people from the uk and the united states and irelandand other places came and joined in on our chat this morning that we have every weekand just the collaboration of beautiful everything that went on this morning.

i would just love for you to share with ouraudience what that was like this morning because i found it to be profoundly moving and i wasjust stoked for the entire day after chat today. bobbi: it is so amazing to see how you hearpeople talk about oh you know online. those relationships aren't real. you have to be in person with someone. our community has built significant relationshipsamongst each other and it was so amazing this morning. we started talking about music and how canmusic lift you up, how can music inspire you,

how can music help you when you feel likeyou are completely and utterly alone in this world, how can music help you to be calm andpeople who are just sending in link after link after link to youtube videos and webpages and play lists of songs that they love and i said in twitter at the chat we needto do this, i'm just not sure how. we need to put together a survivor playlistand put it out there for songs and music and maybe segment it by genra. if you're looking for something inspiring,try these and we talked about everything from dubstep to jazz to classical to athena whosaid that she liked to listen to old michael jackson music.

athena: i feel s need to defend myself. i was picturing myself as a 4rth grader witha michael jackson poster on my wall back in the early, early eighties and then i was picturingmyself listening to like all jackson five. we’re not going to sing to you tonight. we’re not going to sing anymore to you guys. so yeah, i didn’t mean old michael jacksonlike michael jackson music is like super old like all old people like i'm a huge fan ofthe michael jackson like he changed the world, he changed pop music, he changed dance, hechanged so much and so i’m a huge fan. bobbi: jackson 5 michael jackson.

athena: like way a long time ago like seventy's. bobbi: yeah it's funny because i could rememberand collin was talking about the eagles. athena: yes and the beetles. i love the beetles. bobbi: yeah. i'm like yeah i had their albums and theircassette tapes and their cd's and now everything on itunes or online wow i'm old. it just gives you a richer playlist to pickfrom. athena: that is true.

we discussed everything from progressive houselike bobbi said in dub step to i love me some louis armstrong and some etta james and anythirty's music. i love swing music, big band music, i lovemusic from the fifty's, i was raised on pink floyd and i mean oh gosh black sabbath anythingseventy's like i was raised and my parents were total hippie partiers like the typesof parties that like i wouldn't want my kid to go to parties like big drug parties likewith lots of crazy music like ranging from who knows. i mean what is that song from pink floyd that'slike twenty seven minutes long and it's all just psychedelic?

any way i can’t remember that. bobbi: the wall? athena: maybe it was the wall. i can't remember but i played all these music. i had eighty song playlist for my weddingranging everything from acoustic singer-songwriter to the devi brothers to pink floyd to ajayjames to the patriotic god bless the usa song by lee greenwood when my son like came inand walked in before us and bruno mars like there eclectic. you guys just listening to everybody's musicaltastes and who can forget all of the power

ballads of the eighty's bands, all the eighty'shair bands. oh my gosh there were some beautiful amazingincredible music during that time even if you're not a rocker that it's easy to justreally have an appreciation for or some of that music and guns n roses. i mean anyway just so much. music just makes us happy. bobbi i would love to hear you talk aboutthe portion of our chat this morning when we sort of shifted to what songs or are theresongs, what songs do we avoid because they bring back like certain memories or they'revery triggering for us to listen to.

one of mine with cyndi lauper because it wasjust during like the very beginning stages of my abuse that i can remember but what aboutyou? there was a portion this morning where wetalked about some songs that we really couldn't listen to because it was just difficult forabuse reasons. bobbi: some of it, it's not directly relatedto abuse like there are songs that are difficult for me to hear because they were associatedwith after my abuse so when i was in my early teens which was a really, really amazinglyhere i am not leaving my times when i was abused as a really hard time but i was inthat place i don't belong to in the world but i don't know where i belong and i wouldgo to things like school dances and stand

in the corner and feel like nobody in theworld saw me. nobody wanted to dance with me, nobody, ihave a whole bunch of songs like from that particular period that if they come on theradio, i'm pension in channels to change the channel. that was one of the best things about thefact that we can now listen to music on itunes or spotify or pandora. we get to skip those songs and we get to pickthe ones that we like. when i was a little girl grew up pretty poorand my sister and i when we were young had 2 record albums.

one was frank sinatra. i don't know why we had that one. and the other one was the mary poppins soundtrackthat my mom and dad got in for us at a yard sale. i don't know where frank came from and thenwe had an old record player, old record player and we used to listen to those for hours andhours and hours and hours. i think that i was probably the only six-yearold who could sing frank sinatra songs from beginning to end and then we sang bobbi blueand all the ones from mary poppins and those are very fond memories for me of my sisterand i having fun, having a little bit of a

escape amidst everything else when we couldsit safely in my bedroom and listen to music. obviously it wasn't night but during daytime. so yeah music can make amazing connectionand one of those reasons is that music, i know music has words and so it sounds a little. athena: the final reason for all of us survivorsto get together is we can play that song. go ahead bobbi. bobbi: yes, music has words. expressive therapies are about reaching theparts of your brain and expressing emotions

that are not stored in our language centers. music has that incredible capacity of beinga crossover method of expression so it can reach the parts even though it has words. those words go to one part of our brain andthe music goes to that other part of our brain where words are not stored but memories are,emotions are and so when we hear that song, it evokes that emotion and then it also touchesthe music and so that's one of the reasons i adore music is because it will let us doboth. as trauma survivors we have to remember thatthere is a large part of our trauma that is stored in non language based places in ourbody.

not just our brain, but in our body. you know athena and i have talked many timesabout how our body carries trauma and we end up with auto immune disorders because of thecortisol that flowed through our body and we end up with aches and pains and other issuesbecause of the trauma that’s stored in our body and that is the magic of expressive therapiesis that they let us tap into express and heal actually the parts, the trauma that storedother than in our language center in brain and so that's music, that’s art. i am a huge, huge, huge fan of art therapyand if it's art therapy, we’re not concerned about the end product.

we're talking about the process. so when i talk about art therapy, i get invariablypeople who get a look of panic on a face and say i can't draw things, i can't make art,i can’t paint. that’s not what it's about. i don't care if the end product is somethingyou're going to run in and put through the shredder. what we're talking about is you accessingparts of your thoughts and feelings through art that you have not in other ways. so art is fantastic and art along with music,combined those two are fantastic.

i like athena said, equine therapy, movementbased therapies are fantastic. dance, yoga can be very healing and it canhelp us to access thoughts and feelings. athena: hi bobbi. it's not necessarily a question that someoneasked but dominic made a comment about something and i'm just curious how we can heal thisif we can. so there is an opening song in sleeping beautyand her abuser's name rhymed with aurora and the abuser would force her to sing that songwith her name in it and my response was i wish there was some way that we could healthat. i wonder if we could pull that apart for justa second like what would it look like to heal

a musical memory like you know how the powerof scent is pre-cognitive and so if we smell something it will trigger us before our braineven realizes were triggered. it’s like a ninja trigger. it's so hard to calm down and ground ourselvesfrom a smell but like what about a song. what about a song? we hear a song and it's so triggering becauseof something like this it's so twisted and ridiculous and just off right evil like toruin that song for her forever and ever and ever because so much abuse happens like thatthat was her abuser. so i wonder if there's a way for us to likei'm sure with emdr something like that could

be healed but can you think of a way thatyou could heal something like that since it's something that so deeply ingrained throughmusic. bobbi: i think that that requires a powerfulexperience to reclaim that song. so what she needs to do if she desires tohave that song be a part of her life and not associated with those memories is to constructa powerfully positive experience that involves this song. i'm trying to think of something that shecould do at this point but terms of need to make it a concrete example and i can't thinkanything specifically with that song but say for example rachel platens.

it had a really negative connotation for someone. something happened to them while that songwas playing. if a large group of us were able to get togetherand sing it kind of as an anthem, i think the powerful memory that might be able tooverwrite the negative memory and you may need to have several really positive memoriesto overwrite that one because it is so deeply ingrained and i'm sorry that sleeping beautywas ruined. athena: yeah it's just heartbreaking for me. i wanted to say a very special welcome toaniqua. it is her very first time tuning in live withus and we're grateful that you're here with

us. welcome, welcome. and yeah we're sorry dominic that sleepingbeauty was ruined. and donald cribs by the way is sharing a coupleof tweets. so far there are two tweets and they're goingto be more. he's numbering them one two three and howevermany more. it's called six directional breathing andi think he may have learned it at that that healing survivor healing weekend that he wentto and he also talked about drama therapy, being very, very healing like acting out.

and professor vandal, i always say is rightname wrong, he leads healing weekend as well and does like we're each person that is inthe room each they person plays a different character in your scenario and then you reenactthe parts of your scenario so that you can actually have a voice and it’s very, very,very, very, very powerful and very healing. i was reading all about it in my in researchfor this week's topic. bobbi: that's the perfect example of overwritinga prior bad memory with a new more powerful empowering one. you rewrite the story. yes exactly and that's how we reclaim andthere are so many parts of our life, of our

bodies, of our childhood that are just obliteratedby bad memories and we have to, if we want to, we can reclaim them. we absolutely can and rewrite a positive experience,a positive memory, a positive message on top of all that old ugly. it takes some practice but like you said it'svery powerful. athena: yeah i'm wishing. i'm hearing like a lot of people like evenkatie was chiming in that her abuser is to play the same rap song over and over and overand over again and just like rewrite like flip the script, flip the script and findinga way to reclaim that piece of reality for

our own and not something that was twisted. we were twisted and contorted to perform ina certain way it might have it be ruined for similarly, when i was training for a halfmarathon the very first one that i was ever going to do, i was really learning to practiceself care for the very first time. it was just sort of the stage of my recoverythat i was in where i was learning it for the first time and i had like a system likea morning routine and i would listen to this one particular john mayer cd during that timeand i'm telling you, every single time to this day if i hear one of those songs fromthat john mayer cd whatever frame of mind i'm in, i'm like i can do this, i'm healthy,i can practice excellence self care, i can

be well, i can reclaim my life like i somehowlike get inspired because of that song, because of whatever song coming on. bobbi: yes. you’ve programmed your mind. athena: actually it was a live, it was a livecd so but yeah that you guys the power of music and art and you know what, really quicklybefore we're going to be shifting into our onepage here in a moment right bobbi. are we? i want to show you guys something super quick.

i'm telling tracy to rewind because i sangfor her. she just showed up. you guys, just say a really quick hello totracy if you could just say hi. she's been in the hospital and she had surgeryon her, she had a broken femur. so send her some just safe cuddles and sweethugs. so super quick you guys, please ignore thepile of laundry on the floor if you happen to see it but i wantto show you something. it's on topic for our expressive therapiesand i just wanted to show you super quick. you can create something like this for yourself.

i have a drop cloth on the floor. it costs like a couple dollars or you canuse an old sheet and i have like a piece of canvas like plastic stuff underneath it thatjust in case i drop any paint and i got these little like paper drawers for like a couplebucks on amazon. i painted this old bookcase. i painted it white with like a spray can. that’s a piece of art that my son made forme. that is like my favorite in like a piece ofclay that he formed for me when he was really, really, really little.

so here are just like some water colors likejust some cheap stuff and then back in here are just like some of those paints you canbuy on amazon or just acrylics and then like here's some brushes like you get a packageof those brushes for like five bucks and it's like my water bill like different colors andi was doing some water colors but here i started sketching an angel. i wanted to start an angel anthology as afundraiser for all of our peeps to send in pictures of angels. we would sell it or something and like doa fundraiser. anyway we're getting ready to do like an adultcoloring book as a fundraiser as well which

i need to be meeting with cimmy and i haven'tseen cimmy. you guys did we cimmy and jack today? i miss them. did anybody see them or did i just miss them. bobbi: i haven't seen them. i didn't see them this morning. athena: i need to touch base with her justto find out what time we’re meeting. you guys so i'm not an artistic person. i'm not.

i was afraid to even go do that art class. i took one art class. actually, i went to one of the paint wherethey serve you wine and i did okay but i messed up the leaves on my tree, anyway. but then i did one other art class and thenthe gal that was teaching the art class like drew with pencil on my watercolor when i wasdone with it and like devastated me. i was just like so heartbroken that she drewon my art. i will never do that if i helped teach art. so i was terrified and i was like you knowwhat, no i'm not going to allow this to be

robbed from me. i'm going to go online on amazon. i'm going to find some cheap stuff. i got this like package of canvases and justsome cheap brushes and cheap paint and i've been trying like once a month or so to justbe expressive in some sort of an art form and i've been feeling a little bit becausei haven't done it once a month really. i've only got it a few times but music isreally, really healing and you can get that do the some sort of a little set up like thator just set aside a little area if you possibly can so that it's in front of you and it'sready for you to just sit down like set yourself

up for success like we do in our crisis managementplans and like all the other stuff we’re teaching you guys as well like put that oldcrappy sheet down on the floor and like get some old chair or whatever and like you knowbuy some cheap brushes or some cheap paints and maybe just allow yourself like even ifit's just a half hour once a month to just create something and see how it goes becauseyou might find that you access a part of you that you never even knew existed and sortof reclaim that piece of your life which could lead to reclaiming another piece of your lifeand another and another and another and there's like exponential growth that can happen likeit could be a catalyst of change for you. so bobbi, your comments on all of that?

bobbi: as you're talking about that, i thinkart is excellent way to get unstuck when we feel stuck. it's also an excellent way to bring forthemotions when we feel completely shut down and bottled up. and one of my favorite things to do and someday,i will do this with a big group of survivors. get yourself a huge piece of paper or evena big piece of canvas and go out in the yard or someplace to your house where you can getyou know put down a sheet or whatever we can get messy and just, i don't get finger paint,get a big rush whatever you want and just get into the color and just spread it aroundon the paper, big messy art projects where

no one's going to yell at you if you get messy. nobody's going to yell if you if you get painton your shirt. no one is there to say “no, it doesn't looklike a fruit bowl. it needs to look like that fruit bowl thereon the stand.” no, all you're doing is just creating. put some awesome music on and just let yourselfgo and you can do layers and layers of paint, you can write words in the paint, get a markerand write in the painting, whatever you want to do. the idea again it's about the process andnot the product and big messy art projects

are fantastic for accessing emotions particularlyit's good for accessing anger and it's also a good one for accessing sadness and powerbecause you're in control of what's going on that piece of paper. nobody else is but you. so i'm a huge fan of big messy art projectsand someday we will all do them but for now, get yourself a big piece of butcher paperand just go to town and just create. don't worry about what it ends up lookinglike. in fact, if it ends up looking like a bigbunch of mud at the end, that's fine, doesn't matter, roll it up, throw it away when ifyou want to.

it’s about getting there and expressingyourself. athena: like when we commit to the processand not necessarily the outcome. i think if you can take away anything fromtoday's broadcast, possibly think about what it would look like to commit to the processof doing a piece of art just for the sake of doing it and not necessarily having thatpiece of art to keep forever because you don't have to create a piece of art that you'regoing to keep forever and frame it and put it up about your fireplace or on your wallor anything. just commit to the process and not the outcomeand perhaps that will give you some permission. think of children that go off like at churchon sundays a lot of the kids they will go

off to sunday school and then at the end ofsunday school, they'll bring out like feathers and popsicle sticks and q-tips with thinkerpaints and cotton balls and weird stuff and they're like “mommy, looks” and she'slike “it's beautiful” and i'm like and you know it's hard because i have those littlemoments where i'm like oh my goodness i never have that. that sucks. i sort of have like a trigger moment but thenwhen that part sort of subsides and i think of the beauty and the simplicity of this littlechild just getting some weird paste and stuff and just like reading it all over the placeand being like so proud of it, like i really

want to encourage us and push us beyond ourlimits a little bit to allow ourselves permission to embrace the process and not necessarilythe outcome because that is a perfect metaphor for our recovery journey because when we embracethe process of recovering and not necessarily what am i going to look like when i'm donerecovering? i'm so sick of it. am i done yet? i'm sick of triggers. i'm sick of recovering. i'm sick i'm sick i'm sick of it.

we're all sick of it. i mean we're all so damn sick of it. we're sick of anxiety, we're sick of ptsd,we're sick of triggers, we're sick of sleepless nights, we're sick of flashbacks, emotionalflashbacks, we're sick of it all. but the more we persevere and commit to theprocess and not necessarily like hurry it up already c'mon c'mon c'mon already likewhat's going to be outcome. we embrace the journey and embrace the process. when we do get to the outcome and even littlesteps and like resting points along the way, it's so much more beautiful and fulfilling.

bobbi, your comments on that? bobbi: oh. you know another thing that i like thinkingabout that another thing that i like the art and the expressive therapy. if someone comes to me says ok, today we'regoing to talk about your trauma and i get that word cringe of no i don't want to talkabout it again but if you come up to me and say we're going to do some art therapy today. i'm like cool. i'm in.

these are some ways that we can heal our traumathat is generally pleasant. yeah i'm fifty years old and i'm still sickof processing my trauma but when you talk to me about music and art therapy, i'm likecool. i can do that. that’s enjoyable. the emotions that it brings up might not bemy favorite thing in the whole wide world but i like it. i could do without some of the movement therapybecause i still have body issues. athena: i do too.

well, we mentioned in our onepage today, wementioned a couple of the other videos and onepages and one of them is the discoveringmovement and the other is triggers and i could have mentioned several because there was somuch mention this morning in chat and just when you go to tackle the topic of any typeof expressive therapy, we've touched around this topic in like twelve or fifteen differentways on so many of our other onepages and then for us to be focusing completely onlyon this topic, it's just interesting how everything is so connected. everything in our recovery journey is connected. it's a journey.

it's all part of this long winding road thatwe're on and part of that road is whether it's movement, like part of the discoveringmovement video that i did with claudia bobbi was getting like a kitchen towel and likeslapping the ground. no no and then like learning how to screamyes yes and using our voice and using just movement like not exercise at all. we were discovering different ways to moveour bodies that were not considered exercise but they were therapeautic in their nature. so anyway, just hugely beneficial i thoughtand that was. bobbi: it’s is empowering.

athena: it was so empowering. it was so empowering for sure. bobbi: katie had asked and i want to addressthis because other people might have the same question. katie had asked if writing is an expressivetherapy and it's not because writing uses the language centers in our brain but it’svery powerful and writing is actually called writing therapy. i mean there are workshops about writing therapy. so i don't want anyone to think that becauseit's not an expressive therapy that it's not

good. it is phenomenal. it's just not an expressive therapy. it's so wonderful that it's a therapy allon its own. so katie, keep writing. athena: it's cathartic. it's very cathartic and especially when you'rewriting freely and you're not writing with bobbi: again the process not the product. athena: not the product like if you're writingwithin the confines of some sort of like rules

that can be a little bit more difficult butif you're writing just to write and you're just enjoying the process of writing, youcan discover pieces of yourself that you never even knew you had like discovering piecesof your mind that access different areas of your mind that no words that you didn't evenrealize you knew like whenever i go to write, i always tell bobbi this and i told you guysthis before too. writing for me is probably my biggest; it’smy most triggering catalyst because when i’m speaking whether it's speaking on a stage,speaking on an interview or a podcast like audio or speaking here on video with you guysevery single week just showing up, i have certain ticks and tells and coping strategiesthat i use if i get triggered.

humor as a redirect for me is my go to likei just can just show up as just the silly ridiculous girl that'll make you laugh andgiggle and might start singing randomly or make weird faces and that is a way for meto almost distract myself if i'm triggered. showing up on camera first of all for anyonei don't care who you are, is terrifying. it's terrifying because you're putting yourselfout there for the world to love or hate or ignore or complain about. we have trolls that show up every week. we have critics. we have an inner critic, the loudest one soshowing up on video is terrifying in and of

itself. university. i'm your host athena moberg andyour amazing co-host bobbi parish is here with me as well. i want to say a very specialwelcome to all of you who show up early and just support one another in your recoveryjourneys here at trauma recovery university. this is one of three twitter chats that wehave every single week. this one has a live q&a video component to it so if you are hereon youtube, awesome. if you're on our roku tv channel, welcome. if you're here on google,we are happy that you're here. if you are listening on a podcast platform such as itunes,stitcher, spreaker, soundcloud or even i heart radio, we want to kindly remind you that thisis a video broadcast. we would love to welcome

you over and invite you to come and join allof us. bobbi, i have a new number of countries wherei'm going to surprise you right now. so trauma recovery university, we are a global supportgroup that meet up on twitter, youtube and facebook and we are in over 70 countries andwe’re humbled by that. so welcome to all of you. we are currently in the process oftransitioning and getting all of our resources translated into other languages for all ofyou that do not speak english as your native tongue. so i want to invite anyone listeningon a podcast platform to go head on over to nomoreshameproject.com or traumarecoveryuniversity.comand just go ahead and watch some videos and if you would like access to our complimentaryonepage resource which is downloadable and

it's a pdf so it will be accessible and readableon any mobile device or any computer anywhere or any tablet, you can get that by clickingon the downloadables tab on one of our websites traumarecoveryuniversity.com or nomoreshameproject.comand that's just free. we just want to say thank you. it's sort of our weekly blog postif you will and it is a onepage resource that sort of encompasses everything that we willbe discussing tonight here on trauma recovery university. every week we show up here, wedo a live q and a with twitter with you, you tweet your questions to us, you tag us @athenamoberg,@bobbilparish and use the hash tag #nomoreshame. we answer your questions and every week wehave a different topic. that is sort of how this all works. this week's topic is one ofmy favorites of all time over the couple years

that we've been doing this and it is musicand expressive therapies to aid our recovery journey.so music and expressive therapies are different in that they don't follow the same guidelinesas talk therapy. talk therapy is so powerful and there are tons of modalities out there.there's neurolinguistic programming, cognitive behavioral therapy, dialectical behavioraltherapy. there are so many different talk therapies out there and different modalitiesthat include speaking, using our voice and it's so, so, so, so healing. there are howeverways that we can express ourselves in art or listening to music or plain music danceor even having a pet or a dog that is trying to be a ptsd service dog or even equine therapywhich my girlfriend julie is actively involved

in. she lives in washington. so all of these,we're going to be unpacking and talk about tonight and it's all pertaining to you, theadult survivor of child abuse specifically childhood sexual abuse. bobbi and myself areboth survivors of childhood sexual abuse and we show up here every single week and we shareour recovery journey with you because that's what we've chosen to do and over the courseof the last couple of years we've invited several hundred even probably a thousand peopleclose to a thousand people to join us in healing in safe community whether that's in the youtubecomments on the videos, watching the roku tv channel, coming into a private secret facebooksupport group to heal among other survivors free from predators, zero tolerance policy,no abuse, no minimization allowed, just you

and other people healing. so that's who weare, that's what we're about and it is my privilege and my honor to show up here everysingle week to support you, the survivor, and just share humor and tools and educationand resources and some laughs along the way because if you can't laugh and oh my goodnessgracious we've been through so much, we need to find a way to laugh. so we show up hereevery single week and you are the reason we show up. we are honored and privileged tobe here on your recovery journey with you. thank you for being here. i'm going to turnthis over to my amazing partner bobbi parrish who is i'm sure feverishly and amazingly tweetingevery single person that is out there here to support. so i'll take the twitter streamover for you like bobbi and bobbi will share

all kinds of really fun amazing announcementswith you right now. take it away bobbi. bobbi: hi everybody. i'm so glad that you'rehere. we are just honored that you choose to spend an hour or a little more than anhour of your week with us or if you're sitting home binge watching these episodes or listeningon a podcast, however you're are, we’re honored that you're here. i want to issuefirst and foremost a big trigger warning because this is a video podcast, live broadcast thatdiscusses childhood abuse and so please practice excellent self care. take care of yourself.if you get triggered, just step away. it's no big deal. the broadcasts will be here aspodcast as videos up on you tube within a matter of a couple of hours and you'll beable to come back to them so don't hesitate

to just walk away. we don't want you to watchwhen you're feeling distressed at all. we encourage you to reach out to our friendsrainn. rainn is the rape abused incest national network and it is available at 1800-656-hope.you can also reach out to them on their website. days a week and their website is rainn.org.if you are in the uk, you can reach out to the samaritans. the samaritans are availableat 116-123. they also have support via email and you can email them at jo@samaritans.org.you can also get support from the samaritans via text and that number is 0775909090. ifyou are in australia which is our next largest growing community of survivors, your nationalhotline number is 13-11-14. and yay, we’re in 70 countries now and as we get larger groupsof people in different countries, we will

give you the crisis and hotline numbers forthose countries as well. if you want to, feel free to tweet them to us or however it isyou want to get them to us so we can share them with survivors from around the world.athena: i just wanted to say a very special shout out to tiffany and mia. tiffany is joiningus for the very first time and i noticing that mia is joining us as well. mia liveswith matt and she is a feline but tiffany is human. tiffany is human and i would liketo say very special welcome to tiffany jenkins because it's her very first time my twitterand her very first time joining us live. so welcome, welcome, welcome. please continue.bobbi: hi tiffany. i saw a picture of matt’s cat mia. she is gorgeous. athena and i havebeen very hard at work on a special project

that we are going to announce sometime herein the next hopefully two weeks. so we want you, i used to teach kindergarten and so iwould tell my students to put on their listening ears. so put on your twitter and facebooklistening ears over the next couple of weeks because we have a phenomenal announcement.athena and i, i think we share this with you before when we started this. oh gosh i thinki counted the other day twenty months ago. for survivors about what trauma is and howit affects us and so little support. here’s a therapy appointment maybe every two weeksand just on your own and get better. have knowledge, you have support at your fingertipstwenty four seven, three sixty five. so stay tuned and be on the watch and as soon as wecan make our announcement, we will be making

the announcement on twitter and facebook andif you live within about five hundred miles of either one of us do you may very well heara screaming in our living rooms or with our laptops.athena: yes. i have people who will likely hear me over on the island of oahu even thoughi live on maui. i’m so excited to be on this journey with all of you guys. bobbi andi, like she was just saying, are just we’re beyond the realm to be here with you and we'renot here ever saying, we have it all figured out. you guys are broken and i know that soundslike i'm saying it in jest but a lot of places plugin or book or i don't know. i'm tryingto think of stuff that people sell online or whatever but we're here to just show upand support you and it's an honor and it's

a privilege and we're just so, so that weget to do life with you guys and that's what we do. we’re showing up here doing lifewith you guys. and we're blessed. we're count ourselves blessed and fortunate to be herewith you guys. bobbi, could you possibly have imagined when we like you were talking abouta minute ago when we first started. we had all these visions of grandeur with on ourlaptops in our living rooms trying to change the world, could you have ever imagined thatwe would reach seventy countries? bobbi: no.athena: i don't think that i dared to dream that big. in fact i have an issue with dream.i always wonder like am i dreaming to big. bobbi: wow.athena: that was my big dream. i wanted a

gym membership because it had been a reallylong time since i had a gym membership and i didn't make enough money for a long, longtime to have my own gym membership and so i wanted a gym membership and that was mybig, big dream and she was like looking at me, are you kidding, are you joking. she thoughti was joking and i wasn't. survivors have a hard time seeing the forest through thetrees and we can't see the big expansive world out there of what we could possibly accomplish,what we were purpose for, what we were created to be, the goals we have, the dreams we have,we can't even see past. oh my gosh i hope i don't have another panic attack today. ohmy gosh my ptsd is flaring up so bad. my anxiety is off the charts right now and i have togo to the market and i have to buy food and

i have to have the bank and i can't standgoing the bank and i have to go the post office and i hate the post office and oh my goshit's just crazy and there aren't even words to describe all of the things that are goingthrough our head. it is a perfect segue to tonight's topic which is sometimes just gettingmessy with some art or listening to some music super duper loud or getting a musical instrumentand trying it for the first time and like doing the little demo keys that they haveand all the stuff like just somehow expressing yourself in a way, immersing yourself in somethingthat doesn't require words, it is therapeutic. it is a life changing and it is often lifesaving.so buckle your seat belts because it is going to be a really, really, really fun one. ifyou are not here live and you're not hanging

out with us, tweeting and asking questionsand you're like good bored girl just shut up and get to the point, then down below hereright above the comment section in the bottom of the description section on the replay in24 hours or so you will see a link that says if you're here for the replay and you’renot here alive and you don't want to hear us talk, click on the number and it will fastforward you just to our downloadable onepage resource content that we do want to screenshare. so you don't have to listen to us talk, just an enhancement for you folks that arenot here live. so again, you can get access to that complimentary onepage downloadableresource over at traumarecoveryuniversity.com. you’re in and you can have access to thewhole library. there is like a hundred hours

of resources on videos and there's almostone hundred onepages. so yeah, this is going to be exciting. bobbi, is there anything thatwe want to talk about or share? i thought chat was particularly exciting this morningand i wanted to even though we invite people at the end of the broadcast to come and joinus on our weekly twitter chat, i think i would love to hear you talk about the magic thatwas this morning when people from the uk and the united states and ireland and other placescame and joined in on our chat this morning that we have every week and just the collaborationof beautiful everything that went on this morning. i would just love for you to sharewith our audience what that was like this morning because i found it to be profoundlymoving and i was just stoked for the entire

day after chat today.bobbi: it is so amazing to see how you hear people talk about oh you know online. thoserelationships aren't real. you have to be in person with someone. our community hasbuilt significant relationships amongst each other and it was so amazing this morning.we started talking about music and how can music lift you up, how can music inspire you,how can music help you when you feel like you are completely and utterly alone in thisworld, how can music help you to be calm and people who are just sending in link afterlink after link to youtube videos and web pages and play lists of songs that they loveand i said in twitter at the chat we need to do this, i'm just not sure how. we needto put together a survivor playlist and put

it out there for songs and music and maybesegment it by genra. if you're looking for something inspiring, try these and we talkedabout everything from dubstep to jazz to classical to athena who said that she liked to listento old michael jackson music. athena: i feel s need to defend myself. iwas picturing myself as a 4rth grader with a michael jackson poster on my wall back inthe early, early eighties and then i was picturing myself listening to like all jackson five.we’re not going to sing to you tonight. we’re not going to sing anymore to you guys.so yeah, i didn’t mean old michael jackson like michael jackson music is like super oldlike all old people like i'm a huge fan of the michael jackson like he changed the world,he changed pop music, he changed dance, he

changed so much and so i’m a huge fan.bobbi: jackson 5 michael jackson. athena: like way a long time ago like seventy's.bobbi: yeah it's funny because i could remember and collin was talking about the eagles.athena: yes and the beetles. i love the beetles. bobbi: yeah. i'm like yeah i had their albumsand their cassette tapes and their cd's and now everything on itunes or online wow i'mold. it just gives you a richer playlist to pick from.athena: that is true. we discussed everything from progressive house like bobbi said indub step to i love me some louis armstrong and some etta james and any thirty's music.i love swing music, big band music, i love music from the fifty's, i was raised on pinkfloyd and i mean oh gosh black sabbath anything

seventy's like i was raised and my parentswere total hippie partiers like the types of parties that like i wouldn't want my kidto go to parties like big drug parties like with lots of crazy music like ranging fromwho knows. i mean what is that song from pink floyd that's like twenty seven minutes longand it's all just psychedelic? any way i can’t remember that.bobbi: the wall? athena: maybe it was the wall. i can't rememberbut i played all these music. i had eighty song playlist for my wedding ranging everythingfrom acoustic singer-songwriter to the devi brothers to pink floyd to ajay james to thepatriotic god bless the usa song by lee greenwood when my son like came in and walked in beforeus and bruno mars like there eclectic. you

guys just listening to everybody's musicaltastes and who can forget all of the power ballads of the eighty's bands, all the eighty'shair bands. oh my gosh there were some beautiful amazing incredible music during that timeeven if you're not a rocker that it's easy to just really have an appreciation for orsome of that music and guns n roses. i mean anyway just so much. music just makes us happy.bobbi i would love to hear you talk about the portion of our chat this morning whenwe sort of shifted to what songs or are there songs, what songs do we avoid because theybring back like certain memories or they're very triggering for us to listen to. one ofmine with cyndi lauper because it was just during like the very beginning stages of myabuse that i can remember but what about you?

in the corner and feel like nobody in theworld saw me. nobody wanted to dance with me, nobody, i have a whole bunch of songslike from that particular period that if they come on the radio, i'm pension in channelsto change the channel. that was one of the best things about the fact that we can nowlisten to music on itunes or spotify or pandora. we get to skip those songs and we get to pickthe ones that we like. when i was a little girl grew up pretty poor and my sister andi when we were young had 2 record albums. one was frank sinatra. i don't know why wehad that one. and the other one was the mary poppins soundtrack that my mom and dad gotin for us at a yard sale. i don't know where frank came from and then we had an old recordplayer, old record player and we used to listen

to those for hours and hours and hours andhours. i think that i was probably the only six-year old who could sing frank sinatrasongs from beginning to end and then we sang bobbi blue and all the ones from mary poppinsand those are very fond memories for me of my sister and i having fun, having a littlebit of a escape amidst everything else when we could sit safely in my bedroom and listento music. obviously it wasn't night but during daytime. so yeah music can make amazing connectionand one of those reasons is that music, i know music has words and so it sounds a little.athena: the final reason for all of us survivors to get together is we can play that song.go ahead bobbi. bobbi: yes, music has words. expressive therapiesare about reaching the parts of your brain

and expressing emotions that are not storedin our language centers. music has that incredible capacity of being a crossover method of expressionso it can reach the parts even though it has words. those words go to one part of our brainand the music goes to that other part of our brain where words are not stored but memoriesare, emotions are and so when we hear that song, it evokes that emotion and then it alsotouches the music and so that's one of the reasons i adore music is because it will letus do both. as trauma survivors we have to remember that there is a large part of ourtrauma that is stored in non language based places in our body. not just our brain, butin our body. you know athena and i have talked many times about how our body carries traumaand we end up with auto immune disorders because

of the cortisol that flowed through our bodyand we end up with aches and pains and other issues because of the trauma that’s storedin our body and that is the magic of expressive therapies is that they let us tap into expressand heal actually the parts, the trauma that stored other than in our language center inbrain and so that's music, that’s art. i am a huge, huge, huge fan of art therapy andif it's art therapy, we’re not concerned about the end product. we're talking aboutthe process. so when i talk about art therapy, i get invariably people who get a look ofpanic on a face and say i can't draw things, i can't make art, i can’t paint. that’snot what it's about. i don't care if the end product is something you're going to run inand put through the shredder. what we're talking

about is you accessing parts of your thoughtsand feelings through art that you have not in other ways. so art is fantastic and artalong with music, combined those two are fantastic. i like athena said, equine therapy, movementbased therapies are fantastic. dance, yoga can be very healing and it can help us toaccess thoughts and feelings. athena: hi bobbi. it's not necessarily a questionthat someone asked but dominic made a comment about something and i'm just curious how wecan heal this if we can. so there is an opening song in sleeping beauty and her abuser's namerhymed with aurora and the abuser would force her to sing that song with her name in itand my response was i wish there was some way that we could heal that. i wonder if wecould pull that apart for just a second like

what would it look like to heal a musicalmemory like you know how the power of scent is pre-cognitive and so if we smell somethingit will trigger us before our brain even realizes were triggered. it’s like a ninja trigger.it's so hard to calm down and ground ourselves from a smell but like what about a song. whatabout a song? we hear a song and it's so triggering because of something like this it's so twistedand ridiculous and just off right evil like to ruin that song for her forever and everand ever because so much abuse happens like that that was her abuser. so i wonder if there'sa way for us to like i'm sure with emdr something like that could be healed but can you thinkof a way that you could heal something like that since it's something that so deeply ingrainedthrough music.

bobbi: i think that that requires a powerfulexperience to reclaim that song. so what she needs to do if she desires to have that songbe a part of her life and not associated with those memories is to construct a powerfullypositive experience that involves this song. for example rachel platens. it had a reallynegative connotation for someone. something happened to them while that song was playing.if a large group of us were able to get together and sing it kind of as an anthem, i thinkthe powerful memory that might be able to overwrite the negative memory and you mayneed to have several really positive memories to overwrite that one because it is so deeplyingrained and i'm sorry that sleeping beauty was ruined.athena: yeah it's just heartbreaking for me.

i wanted to say a very special welcome toaniqua. it is her very first time tuning in live with us and we're grateful that you'rehere with us. welcome, welcome. and yeah we're sorry dominic that sleeping beauty was ruined.and donald cribs by the way is sharing a couple of tweets. so far there are two tweets andthey're going to be more. he's numbering them one two three and however many more. it'scalled six directional breathing and i think he may have learned it at that that healingsurvivor healing weekend that he went to and he also talked about drama therapy, beingvery, very healing like acting out. and professor vandal, i always say is right name wrong,he leads healing weekend as well and does like we're each person that is in the roomeach they person plays a different character

in your scenario and then you reenact theparts of your scenario so that you can actually have a voice and it’s very, very, very,very, very powerful and very healing. i was reading all about it in my in research forthis week's topic. empowering one. you rewrite the story. yesexactly and that's how we reclaim and there are so many parts of our life, of our bodies,of our childhood that are just obliterated by bad memories and we have to, if we wantto, we can reclaim them. we absolutely can and rewrite a positive experience, a positivememory, a positive message on top of all that old ugly. it takes some practice but likeyou said it's very powerful. athena: yeah i'm wishing. i'm hearing likea lot of people like even katie was chiming

in that her abuser is to play the same rapsong over and over and over and over again and just like rewrite like flip the script,flip the script and finding a way to reclaim that piece of reality for our own and notsomething that was twisted. we were twisted and contorted to perform in a certain wayit might have it be ruined for us. similarly, when i was training for a half marathon thevery first one that i was ever going to do, i was really learning to practice self carefor the very first time. it was just sort of the stage of my recovery that i was inwhere i was learning it for the first time and i had like a system like a morning routineand i would listen to this one particular john mayer cd during that time and i'm tellingyou, every single time to this day if i hear

one of those songs from that john mayer cdwhatever frame of mind i'm in, i'm like i can do this, i'm healthy, i can practice excellenceself care, i can be well, i can reclaim my life like i somehow like get inspired becauseof that song, because of whatever song coming on.bobbi: yes. you’ve programmed your mind. onepage here in a moment right bobbi. arewe? i want to show you guys something super quick. i'm telling tracy to rewind becausei sang for her. she just showed up. you guys, just say a really quick hello to tracy ifyou could just say hi. she's been in the hospital and she had surgery on her, she had a brokenfemur. so send her some just safe cuddles and sweet hugs. so super quick you guys, pleaseignore the pile of laundry on the floor if

you happen to see it but i want to show yousomething. it's on topic for our expressive therapies and i just wanted to show you superquick. you can create something like this for yourself. i have a drop cloth on the floor.it costs like a couple dollars or you can use an old sheet and i have like a piece ofcanvas like plastic stuff underneath it that just in case i drop any paint and i got theselittle like paper drawers for like a couple bucks on amazon. i painted this old bookcase.i painted it white with like a spray can. that’s a piece of art that my son made forme. that is like my favorite in like a piece of clay that he formed for me when he wasreally, really, really little. so here are just like some water colors like just somecheap stuff and then back in here are just

like some of those paints you can buy on amazonor just acrylics and then like here's some brushes like you get a package of those brushesfor like five bucks and it's like my water bill like different colors and i was doingsome water colors but here i started sketching an angel. i wanted to start an angel anthologyas a fundraiser for all of our peeps to send in pictures of angels. we would sell it orsomething and like do a fundraiser. anyway we're getting ready to do like an adult coloringbook as a fundraiser as well which i need to be meeting with cimmy and i haven't seencimmy. you guys did we cimmy and jack today? i miss them. did anybody see them or did ijust miss them. bobbi: i haven't seen them. i didn't see themthis morning.

athena: i need to touch base with her justto find out what time we’re meeting. you guys so i'm not an artistic person. i'm not.i was afraid to even go do that art class. i took one art class. actually, i went toone of the paint where they serve you wine and i did okay but i messed up the leaveson my tree, anyway. but then i did one other art class and then the gal that was teachingthe art class like drew with pencil on my watercolor when i was done with it and likedevastated me. i was just like so heartbroken that she drew on my art. i will never do thatif i helped teach art. so i was terrified and i was like you know what, no i'm not goingto allow this to be robbed from me. i'm going to go online on amazon. i'm going to findsome cheap stuff. i got this like package

of canvases and just some cheap brushes andcheap paint and i've been trying like once a month or so to just be expressive in somesort of an art form and i've been feeling a little bit because i haven't done it oncea month really. i've only got it a few times but music is really, really healing and youcan get that do the some sort of a little set up like that or just set aside a littlearea if you possibly can so that it's in front of you and it's ready for you to just sitdown like set yourself up for success like we do in our crisis management plans and likeall the other stuff we’re teaching you guys as well like put that old crappy sheet downon the floor and like get some old chair or whatever and like you know buy some cheapbrushes or some cheap paints and maybe just

allow yourself like even if it's just a halfhour once a month to just create something and see how it goes because you might findthat you access a part of you that you never even knew existed and sort of reclaim thatpiece of your life which could lead to reclaiming another piece of your life and another andanother and another and there's like exponential growth that can happen like it could be acatalyst of change for you. so bobbi, your comments on all of that?bobbi: as you're talking about that, i think art is excellent way to get unstuck when wefeel stuck. it's also an excellent way to bring forth emotions when we feel completelyshut down and bottled up. and one of my favorite things to do and someday, i will do this witha big group of survivors. get yourself a huge

piece of paper or even a big piece of canvasand go out in the yard or someplace to your house where you can get you know put downa sheet or whatever we can get messy and just, i don't get finger paint, get a big rush whateveryou want and just get into the color and just spread it around on the paper, big messy artprojects where no one's going to yell at you if you get messy. nobody's going to yell ifyou if you get paint on your shirt. no one is there to say “no, it doesn't look likea fruit bowl. it needs to look like that fruit bowl there on the stand.” no, all you'redoing is just creating. put some awesome music on and just let yourself go and you can dolayers and layers of paint, you can write words in the paint, get a marker and writein the painting, whatever you want to do.

on that piece of paper. nobody else is butyou. so i'm a huge fan of big messy art projects and someday we will all do them but for now,get yourself a big piece of butcher paper and just go to town and just create. don'tworry about what it ends up looking like. matter, roll it up, throw it away when ifyou want to. it’s about getting there and expressing yourself.athena: like when we commit to the process and not necessarily the outcome. i think ifyou can take away anything from today's broadcast, possibly think about what it would look liketo commit to the process of doing a piece of art just for the sake of doing it and notnecessarily having that piece of art to keep forever because you don't have to create apiece of art that you're going to keep forever

and frame it and put it up about your fireplaceor on your wall or anything. just commit to the process and not the outcome and perhapsthat will give you some permission. think of children that go off like at church onsundays a lot of the kids they will go off to sunday school and then at the end of sundayschool, they'll bring out like feathers and popsicle sticks and q-tips with thinker paintsand cotton balls and weird stuff and they're like “mommy, looks” and she's like “it'sbeautiful” and i'm like and you know it's hard because i have those little moments wherei'm like oh my goodness i never have that. that sucks. i sort of have like a triggermoment but then when that part sort of subsides and i think of the beauty and the simplicityof this little child just getting some weird

paste and stuff and just like reading it allover the place and being like so proud of it, like i really want to encourage us andpush us beyond our limits a little bit to allow ourselves permission to embrace theprocess and not necessarily the outcome because that is a perfect metaphor for our recoveryjourney because when we embrace the process of recovering and not necessarily what ami going to look like when i'm done recovering? i'm so sick of it. am i done yet? am i doneyet? am i done yet? i'm sick of triggers. i'm sick of recovering. i'm sick i'm sicki'm sick of it. we're all sick of it. i mean we're all so damn sick of it. we're sick ofanxiety, we're sick of ptsd, we're sick of triggers, we're sick of sleepless nights,we're sick of flashbacks, emotional flashbacks,

we're sick of it all. but the more we persevereand commit to the process and not necessarily like hurry it up already c'mon c'mon c'monalready like what's going to be outcome. we embrace the journey and embrace the process.when we do get to the outcome and even little steps and like resting points along the way,it's so much more beautiful and fulfilling. bobbi, your comments on that?bobbi: oh. you know another thing that i like thinking about that another thing that i likethe art and the expressive therapy. if someone comes to me says ok, today we're going totalk about your trauma and i get that word cringe of no i don't want to talk about itagain but if you come up to me and say we're going to do some art therapy today. i'm likecool. i'm in. these are some ways that we

can heal our trauma that is generally pleasant.yeah i'm fifty years old and i'm still sick of processing my trauma but when you talkto me about music and art therapy, i'm like cool. i can do that. that’s enjoyable. theemotions that it brings up might not be my favorite thing in the whole wide world buti like it. i could do without some of the movement therapy because i still have bodyissues. athena: i do too. well, we mentioned in ouronepage today, we mentioned a couple of the other videos and onepages and one of themis the discovering movement and the other is triggers and i could have mentioned severalbecause there was so much mention this morning in chat and just when you go to tackle thetopic of any type of expressive therapy, we've

touched around this topic in like twelve orfifteen different ways on so many of our other onepages and then for us to be focusing completelyonly on this topic, it's just interesting how everything is so connected. everythingin our recovery journey is connected. it's a journey. it's all part of this long windingroad that we're on and part of that road is whether it's movement, like part of the discoveringmovement video that i did with claudia bobbi was getting like a kitchen towel and likeslapping the ground. no no and then like learning how to scream yes yes and using our voiceand using just movement like not exercise at all. we were discovering different waysto move our bodies that were not considered exercise but they were therapeautic in theirnature. so anyway, just hugely beneficial

i thought and that was.bobbi: it’s is empowering. athena: it was so empowering. it was so empoweringfor sure. question. katie had asked if writing is anexpressive therapy and it's not because writing uses the language centers in our brain butit’s very powerful and writing is actually called writing therapy. i mean there are workshopsabout writing therapy. so i don't want anyone to think that because it's not an expressivetherapy that it's not good. it is phenomenal. it's just not an expressive therapy. it'sso wonderful that it's a therapy all on its own. so katie, keep writing.athena: it's cathartic. it's very cathartic and especially when you're writing freelyand you're not writing with

bobbi: again the process not the product.athena: not the product like if you're writing within the confines of some sort of like rulesthat can be a little bit more difficult but if you're writing just to write and you'rejust enjoying the process of writing, you can discover pieces of yourself that you nevereven knew you had like discovering pieces of your mind that access different areas ofyour mind that no words that you didn't even realize you knew like whenever i go to write,i always tell bobbi this and i told you guys this before too. writing for me is probablymy biggest; it’s my most triggering catalyst because when i’m speaking whether it's speakingon a stage, speaking on an interview or a podcast like audio or speaking here on videowith you guys every single week just showing

up, i have certain ticks and tells and copingstrategies that i use if i get triggered. showing up on camera first of all for anyonei don't care who you are, is terrifying. it's terrifying because you're putting yourselfout there for the world to love or hate or ignore or complain about. we have trolls thatshow up every week. we have critics. we have an inner critic, the loudest one so showingup on video is terrifying in and of itself. and then for us to show up on a topic suchas childhood sexual abuse and then show up as survivors who have lived through sexualabuse and other forms of abuse, it's twelve different levels of o.m. g. are they reallydoing this right now and i was even told that at a conference that i presented at all likehow do you get up there and not only get up

there and just talk and make it look likeit's easy but talk about such a sensitive topic and i just had to be real and say “wellwhen i'm triggered or when i'm having anxiety and i'm scared out of my mind like i'm goingto pee myself, usually i use humor as a redirect because that's just a coping strategy thatworks for me” and i'm pretty good at showing up as the ridiculous girl and bobbi is theteacher and she's the therapist and she's very serious and very kind and compassionatebut a lot of that is me you know, spoiler alert, a lot of that is me using humor asa redirect and a coping strategy. now am i usually fun and funny and all that?yeah. i’m not showing up here as someone false. i'm very like very vulnerable and transparentwhen i show up with you guys but this is expressive

for me and this is community for me. thisis healing for me to show up and bare my soul to you guys and the reason it’s therapeuticfor while it's not considered an expressive therapy because i am showing up here usingwords like bobbi said it's accessing the language areas of my brain, the benefit that i getfrom showing up here every single week with you guys is that a whole bunch of you, manyof you here right now will leave comments below this video and you'll just say hi andsay wow i thought i was all alone or you'll email us and tell us a story about how youalmost committed suicide and you decided not to because you found our youtube channel oryou'll send us a private message of a long beautiful story of where you were three yearsago and then you found us a couple years ago

and here you are now and look at the growthin your life or you'll mail us gifts and with little handwritten cards and tell us whatdifferences we're making in your life and how grateful you are to be a part of the hugefamily. that’s the benefit of showing up here every single week and it's extremelytherapeutic for bobbi and myself because you guys are what makes this community magicaland amazing and powerful and you guys are the ones that are really changing the world.we show up and we provide the little link for you to click on but without all of youwith your tweets and your comments and your e-mails and just your love and just shoutingfrom the rooftops how awesome it is being safe community, bobbi and i would be stuckjust doing like the other side jobs that we

do part time to pay our bills and we wouldn'tget to do this fun stuff with you so thank you. i didn't know i was going to get allemotional and like serious and sensitive and all that but hey this is live. so bobbi didyou have anything you wanted to add to that or your comments on my little soap box rantabout how special everyone is? bobbi: i can't disagree with that. how cani disagree with the fact that you're also special?athena: i didn’t realize that i was going to go there. anyway i started off this tryingto tell you guys that it's okay to use certain things as coping strategies but it reallydoes just boil down to you guys just being amazing and mondays are our favorite day ofthe week because of you. so we are very excited

to present to you an awesome onepage, my favoriteonepage that we have ever done here. i don't even know what number this is, its like numberninety something almost or maybe it's one hundred. i have no idea what number this isbut so is my most favorite onepage that we've ever done and you can access it for free overat traumarecoveryuniversity.com or nomoreshameproject.com. click on the tab that says downloadables andyou'll be given immediate access to this and our entire library which we invite you toclick, print, put it into a binder and use it to heal on your recovery journey and leaveus a comment below if this video has been helpful for you or give it a thumbs up orshare it with someone you know who needs to know that they're not alone and we're goingto go ahead and share our onepage content

with you now and we'll be talking a littlebit more afterwards as well. bobbi: ok let's talk onepage. ok so this month,this will month of may, we’ve been focusing on types of media, books, video tapes, podcastthat we can use to help ourselves for their recovery. let's face it. not all of us havethe money we need to fund all of the help that we need in our recovery. so having someways to do things on our own is pretty darn awesome. so we talked about books the firstweek. we talked about videos and podcast last week and this week we're going to talk aboutexpressive therapies. so everything we've discussed up until this point relies uponlanguage but there are many things in our experiences that we don't have words to express.sometimes our abuse memories and emotions

are buried in places of our brains that don'thave language abilities and this is especially true if you have abuse that occurred beforeyou were verbal so say between about the ages of birth and two, two and a half. and rightthere in parenthesis says we have a video on onepage titled pre-verbal memories. buteven if you were abused past that pre-verbal stage, some of memories can be stored in placeswhere there's not a language base and that's just because of the damage done to our brainand the way our brain, the capacity to store memory. we can use expressive therapy methodsto reach those. expressive modalities typically don't require us to use a language to benefitfrom their capacity to heal us. examples of these are music, art, pet therapy, dance,equine therapy and recreational therapy. phoenix

was talking about how she just took classesjust kick boxing. that is a recreational therapy that allows her to not only process memoriesand emotions stored in her body but it's a great way to get out some anger. all of theseallow us to both express emotions and thoughts while receiving powerful and exponential healingbenefits. music is one of the most powerful expressive therapies: both listening to andcreating music. we haven't talked yet tonight about creating music but that can be very,very powerful as well. not one of my personal skills. i can make noise but not music.okay, so here are some ways that we can use music. we can use music to calm ourselvesand even promote sleep. i can't count on two hands the number of survivors i have workedwith and i know that use music to help them

fall asleep at night. classical, soothing,calming music maybe it's just nature sounds, ocean waves, whatever it is that is calmingfor you and then i know some survivors who wear ear buds to sleep and if they wake upin the night and their ear buds are pulling out, they put them back in so they keep listeningto their music. music can soothe us when you're anxious orupset. one of the things that survivors rarely learn when they're young is how to self sootheand so developing tools on soothing as an adult is so important. we have to know howto soothe our upset and our distress without turning to unhealthy coping mechanisms andi would just music is something that sooths you, put together a play list and keep iton hand so that when you start to feel upset,

you can play it. it is an excellent self soothingtool. music can also let us know only we're notalone in what we're feeling because when you can find someone, who said this morning. someonesaid on the twitter stream and they shared the song and they said i think the song waswritten just for me. athena: what song was that? i remember someonesaying that. bobbi: yeah i don't remember the song. i listento it for a bit but i don't know who. i wasn't familiar with the artist but i mean when someoneout there could nail our feelings in a song you know are not alone. you are not aloneand i think that was one of the most powerful things this morning in chat and tonight onthe broadcast is when someone said hey i love

____ song. oh yeah that's a great one. you’renot alone. and music can unite us in that way.music can also encourage and lift us up when we’re feeling low or hopeless. that rachelplaten song and this is my favorite song. i actually found a youtube video that repeatsit for an hour. athena: i found one that repeats that forlike eleven hours is like an eleven hour repeat. and that's ridiculous but it's really awesome.bobbi: sometimes i never listen to it for eleven hours but sometimes i like having iton repeat and i can just listen to it and sometimes sing along as terribly as i do andjust it will encourage me and it will inspire me and along that, music can energize us andmotivate us. athena talked about listening

to john mayer and when she listens to thatjohn mayer album which was associated for her marathon training, she knows she can makehealthy choices. music helps us connect with others in social settings. you have probablyseen this if you have ever been to a concert, church, even a party or a function. i can'teven begin to imagine that we won’t have some music at our conferences because it isa huge connector of people. and then last but absolutely not least, isit gives us the opportunity to express and vent emotions. i have been known to, i don'tdrive just for driving but if i'm driving somewhere and a song comes on the radio thati like, i make sure the windows are rolled up and i turn the song really, really loudand i will just sing at the top of my lungs.

it is usually not a happy song but maybe somethingthat helps me get a little bit of frustration and rage. so it allows us to express thingsin ways that are acceptable. it's not hurting anybody, has not ended anybody, has not endedourselves or not harming ourselves and so if music can help you do that, then you knowi say go for it repeatedly. and then art and we’ve been talking aboutthis. art is a very potent expressive therapy and allows us to tap into parts of our brainthat language cannot. with art and doesn't matter what form of art it is, painting, collage,clay, sculpture, jewelry making, photography, mixed media, mosaics and even down to thingslike making a man doll withstand you know like you i have never done it but i have seensome done and they're just gorgeous. anyway

that is an artistic form that can be createdwithout rigid boundaries and standards. again, it's the process not the product. for it tobe therapeutic, the art making process is more powerful than the end product.to use art in healing journey, experiment with different kinds of art. so if you havealways been one to use paint and ink, try paint. if you have always one to be a drawor whether it's your paint pen whatever, try working with clay. do sculpture. try photography.photography is such an easy way to capture images and express things these because mostof us all have cameras on our cellphones, right. mixed media can be awesome. just trydifferent things because i think that different forms of art can access different parts ofour brain and so i encourage you to push the

edges of your comfort zone.don't set limits or standards on the end product. just create without boundaries.explore the use of color. color is one of the neatest parts of art. some colors conveya mood or emotion better than others. i can remember, obviously this pained me becausei still remember so many years later. i was in a psychiatric ward and we were doing artand we were supposed to draw painting and i drew a tree and had a lot of red in it andthe art therapy said, you must be very angry. and i remember looking at it and i don’tthink i’m angry. maybe i’m angry. i don’t think i’m angry. that sticks in my mindbecause i remember how she said that. and we've talked about this but art therapygets messy. it does get messy. make art that

is big and messy and involves your whole body,accessing thoughts and feelings toward away in places we've never accessed before.make art in groups of safe people. group interaction while creating can be both supportive andhealing. it's kind of the same component of working one to one with the therapist is goodbut sometimes group therapy is good too. so making art one to one just yourself in yourhome and safe place is good. sometimes making our in groups is pretty amazing.and this last piece is just my caution because i know that for some survivors, differentkinds of textures and odors can be triggering. i have a texture trigger and it's anythingthat's really sticky that i can't get off my hands easily. if you could see me rightnow, i’m literally wringing my hands as

i'm talking about this because i cannot standthat texture. it is just a sticky gooey. so for me, things like plato are will send meto the ceiling rather than being helpful to me but types of clay like sculpey. other typesof clay that aren't sticky like, that i'm fine. so be aware of what your personal triggersmight be and honor those. don’t force yourself to work in an art modality that's triggeringfor you. there's no benefit to that whatsoever. and then we have a video and onepage titledtriggers and the last, we just touch on the last two down here: activities that unlockmovement can be very helpful in accessing trauma stored in our bodies as well as helpingus become more comfortable with and attached to our bodies. and we have the video and onepagetitled discovering movement. and then pet

equine therapy are fantastic ways to engagewith another living creature who offers us trust, compassion and unconditional love.sometimes when you're first starting to heal, it is so hard to trust another human being,it is so hard to engage positively with another human being. in that place pet therapy ismagic because you can put your trust in this animal that has absolutely nothing to offeryou other than adoration and love. it’s wonderful and it can allow you to feel safeand grounded and allow you to practice the art of trust in ways that you might not beable to do with a human being in that moment. so there we go. that's the onepage.athena: you tube's been kind of glitchy tonight you guys. lindy’s talking about there area lot of great adult coloring books out there.

we’re putting together an adult coloringbook lindy and we're actually gathering submissions from people. we are going to use it as a fundraiserso that we can get all the survivors together and have a conference. so yes adult coloringbook can be extremely healing and for anyone that was trying to watch live tonight andyou're only able to watch the replay due to some glitchy issues with youtube, we're sorryabout that. we have researched and sort of exhausted ourselves in looking for eitheroutlets or something comparable to the google hangouts on air which renders directly toyour youtube channel which then goes to our roku tv channel and we haven't found anythingthat comparable that's affordable. we could be using zoom or i think there's one calledspreecast or there's another one called twenty

one social but they're all very, very expensiveand of course it's technology so they're going to be glitchy as well. so before we transitionour broadcast to the to the portion where we welcome new people in that perhaps havenever been here before and it's their first time, i just want to throw this out thereto each and every one of you. we've had some volunteers step up recently in areas thatwe really needed volunteers. we have never done sort of hey if you would like to volunteerin our community, please let me know. we've sort of like mentioned it a couple times inpassing but we never really get a focused sort of reach out and these people somehowfound us and they're just raised that into leadership positions in volunteering withour community because we really needed it.

so what i'm saying is for any of you thatare looking to volunteer in some way, shape or form, i just want to plant the seed. youmight have the specific gifting or the specific talent that that we need in our communityand there is a chance that unless you reach out and say, hey i would love to be a partof whatever it is that you're working on and doing. how can i volunteer? unless you sortof step up and say that you're interested in volunteering, we're never going to tapon you and say, hey hi so and so i know you're a single mom and you work 4 jobs and you don'teven have time to breathe but you want to volunteer with us like we're never going toreach out and ask you unless you message us or email us saying. we have a research internand she's amazing and she e-mailed us and

said, i'm looking for an intern position.i'm not looking for a paid position. i'm looking to be an intern. i'm transitioning. this isthe portion my life where i just am wanting to gain some life skills and i want to beable to have to volunteer as an intern and we interviewed her and she fits a very specificskill set that we were looking for and we brought her on and we're getting all of ourprofessional e-mails set up in the week, this coming week and we're really excited to bemoving full steam ahead with this initiative of reaching one billion survivors globally.so we're seventy countries in and we're going to keep on going and we're not going to stopso if you are looking for a way to volunteer your time, even if it's just one hour a weekor one hour a month or whatever, something

that's totally on your spare time, then pleasereach out to us at nomoreshameproject@gmail.com and let us know if you're interested in beingan intern because we could interview you and see what it is that you love and if it fitsthe construct of what it is that we're looking for and we would love to have you. so safepeople, predators not welcome obviously. bobbi, did you want to add anything to that beforewe transition our broadcast or did you want to say anything to everybody before we goall of our normal people that are always here. bobbi: i agree with athena. we do so muchourselves but unless we have other people that are going to come on board, we won'tbe able to get the numbers that we want to get so we really appreciate the people whohave come on board and share some tremendous

gifts and talents with us and if you havegifts and talents and time, please, reach out to us and let us know so we can see ifthere's something that you have, a giftedness you have that matches with something thatwe need. we would really appreciate and thank you to everyone who's here. hopefully we'llhave someone who can go back through the different twitter chats that we do this week. tomorrownight is the last one and gather all the songs together and help us make a list so that wecan play them. athena: matt offered to take that genra ofeighty's rock music. so if you have a certain genra you want to like volunteer your timeto help create a survivor playlist, then by all means please let us know. we’re creatingan e-book or survivors of with all kinds of

different multimedia, reading, music, booke-books videos podcasts, all types of multimedia or earth survivors. so i just want to sayvery, very heartfelt thank you to each and every one of you that decided to show up live.it's always a joy to see you here on the twitter feed just supporting one another. the supportthat you guys give one another on a weekly basis is nothing short of beautiful miraculousin our eyes. we could have never dreamed that deciding to start a youtube channel, we wouldbe able to interact with you, watch you supporting one another and watch the growth that you'veexperienced on your healing journey throughout the time that we've been together just overthe last couple years. so thank you for allowing us to be a part of your lives and for spendingthis last hour or so with us. we're going

to transition and welcome all of the new peoplein and let them know how they can get plugged in to safe community and how it is that theycan contact us aside from leaving a comment below this video. we want to make sure everybodyhas our facebook information, twitter and our e-mail addresses. so thank you so muchfor being here and if you are brand new and want to stick around, we invite you to stickaround with us. we have some awesome screen shares will probably be just about ten tofifteen minutes maximum so but thanks everybody for being here with us mondays our favoriteday of the week because of you. i think bobbi has a couple screen shares.bobbi: i do. i do. i do. athena: did i rush you?bobbi: you did not rush me. i am

multitasking and sometimes the multitaskingbrain has limits. so we have safe community on both twitter and facebook which you aremore than welcome to join us on. these are free, they’re always will be free, neverwill be any charge for these. on twitter we have three twitter chats a week. you can joinus at one or all three or two, whatever it is that meets your needs. monday at 10am pacifictime, 6pm in the uk. the hashtag is #csaqt and that stands for child sexual abuse questiontime. and then monday evening which is the live twitter and video broadcast which you'rewatching right now either as a replay or live. the hashtag for that is #nomoreshame and itis at 6pm pacific, 9 eastern and tuesday at 2:00 in the morning. and then tuesday eveningat 6pm pacific, 9:00 eastern see the pattern

there, wednesday at 2:00 in the morning isthe final twitter chat of the week and that is sex abuse chat hashtag #sexabusechat.and then we have multiple facebook support groups and we will be starting more becausethey're growing exponentially. if you would like to join one of our secret facebook groups,they are entirely private. even if you go to facebook and you search for them, theywill not pop up. we ask that you follow this four step process and the first thing we askyou to do is to like the trauma recovery university page and will show that url to you on thenext screen share. and then send friend requests to both athena and we ask you to send themto both of us because we're both in two different time zones, we have two different schedulesso one of us is going to be able to get to

you sooner than the other. so send us friendrequests and then after we have accepted your friend request not before because if you doit before, it goes into that horrible other folder and we get no notifications there'sanything in. athena: i hate the other folder.bobbi: other folder is our nemesis. athena: i feel terrible when i see everybodyin there i'm like oh my gosh it's been in there since november of 2014.bobbi: yes. so after we accept you for a request, send us a message saying something like i’dlike heal in safe community. i’d like to join one of your support groups and if wedo not already know you from a live event or from facebook or from twitter chat or fromthis broadcast, we will ask you some questions

and that is because we're trying to createand we have created safe spaces for survivors and we want to make sure that no one getsinto the safe spaces that are predatory that will threaten that safety. so if we ask youquestions, please don't be offended. it isn't because you appear to be shifty or we thinkyou're a liar. it's because we're trying to protect the safety of the group and when youare admitted into the group and you can partake of that safety, we will continue to do thatwith people who come after you so you can have that safe space to enjoy. so after we'vequestioned you, after we've gotten the information we need, we will get you plugged in to oneof our support groups. now, i’m going to share the waysathena: laura has volunteered to go back and

collect all of the music, movies and booksand all of that so i'm going to connect her with maggie because maggie has that medialist that she's already like working on but how amazing is that going to be. i mean weare going to have all of these resources to give someone. oh my god.bobbi: i think that's wonderful. this is why we're doing this because you and i didn’thave this and we want others to have this. okay. so here we go: ways to contact us. ifyou would like to connect with us on e-mail you can write us at bobbilparish@gmail.com,athenamobergspeaking@gmail.com and then nomoreshameproject@gmail.com. if you would like to connect with us on twitter,i am @bobbilparish, athena is @athenamoberg and trauma recovery university is @traumarecoveryu,capitals don’t matter. jump over to the

right and you can see that we talk about placeswhere you can see the replays of the videos and all he had to do is go to youtube, rokutv or google plus and do a search for trauma recovery university.any time you can come and watch videos down here in the right hand side and just see this.so we have a shortcut link that is bit.ly/traumarecoveryu and the capitals on that one do matter. ifyou would like to connect with us on facebook, the facebook page for trauma recoveryuniversityis facebook.com/traumarecoveryuniversity. bobbi parish coaching and consulting is myprofessional page. bobbi parish is my personal page. athena moberg speaking is her professionalpage and dawn athena moberg is her personal page and those are the ways that you can connectwith us.

athena: yeah. i’m just saying goodnightto everybody. everybody’s saying goodnight. tracy was just saying bye to us as well. shesaid that we are awesome peeps and we make her heart and her hips feel better. traceyjust had surgery on a broken femur holy moly and she is our conference planner, extraordinarywork. oh my gosh and other volunteers, we have matt, we have maggie, i’m getting readyto meet with cimmy who’s going to be gathering some entries for the adult coloring book.we just so blessed. we have a whole bunch of volunteers that are helping doing our moderatingand we haven't like ramp them up and on board of them fully. they're helping with our facebookgroups and our youtube comments and e-mails. they’re going to be helping us out in someof the other capacities because bobbi and

i are just two humans two one two humans,we're two humans and there are one billion survivors. so that leaves half a billion forbobbi and half a billion for me and that's impossible. so we need you, lovely amazingsurvivors to come help us reach a billion people with a message of hope and healing.so there's a call to action. not only should you give this video a thumbs up if it helpedyou but subscribe to our channel and let us know in an e-mail over at nomoreshameproject@gmail.comor over in the about section of our youtube channel and let us know how you would loveto help us reach one billion survivors globally. so it is an honor to be here with you everysingle week. thank you for showing up. you are the reason this community is incredibleand magical and life changing. bobbi, did

you want to say anything.bobbi: i’m getting a kick out of laura volunteering to do the music and i told her that edna wouldbe the official play list mascot. athena: oh yes most definitely because edna’sadorable. just in our survivor community alone, we have some amazing pet therapy and her horseis beautiful too and then of course, mia. mia is a beautiful kitty. and oh and there'sa turtle too and why am i forgetting flash. flash is matt turtle’s name. i had a turtlenamed sweety and a dog named duce. bobbi has copper and silver.bobbi: can you see the theme? athena: right. but you guys thank you. bobbiand i are so honored to be here with you every single week and we look forward to this. wereally do. i know we say it so often but thank

you, thank you for being here with us everysingle week and we will see you next monday 6pm pacific, 9pm eastern live right here exactlywhere you're at right now or you can watch a replay twenty four seven three sixty fiveor reach out to us, go over to the about section of our youtube channel and find out how toget plugged in to safe community if you missed that portion of the video for some reasonbut this is bobbi parrish and i’m athena moberg and we love bringing you everythingyou need for healthy inform trauma recovery and we will see you very, very soon. bye everybody.

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